The Science of Fermentation [audio]

(bbc.co.uk)

45 points | by fallinditch 2 days ago

5 comments

  • teekert 26 minutes ago
    As someone who bakes about 4 sourdough breads a week I can appreciate this :)
    • bane 6 hours ago
      Some anecdotes:

      - My wife is Korean, and a lot of Korean food is fermented, preserved, or otherwise kept using a traditional pre-refrigeration method. There are a number of really beautiful traditions that come from the logistics of keeping stuff around for months, or even years. The idea of things being diverted off at various stages of fermentation for different uses was a massive revelation to my American mind.

      - That being said, my Korean relatives are completely blown away by some old Western methods of fermentation especially around land mammal meats -- various sausages, smoked meats, salted meats -- and fermented milk products like cheeses.

      - The best restaurant in the world, I think in Norway, featured a dedicated fermentation R&D lab as part of their core restaurant menu development process.

      - The global trade in alcoholic drinks in based on truly beautiful and sophisticated battles between various micro-organisms.

      - My friends in the bio-world recently (in the last few years) have taken an interest in fermentation as part of the thinking on long-term food sources for space habitability. Nothing produces the incredible complexity in microbiology, specifically ones good for food sources for humans, creates anything close to the complexity of fermentation. The thought it using stages of fermentation to produce all of the feed material needed for complete human nutrition. But it's perpetual.

      Bonus - you might also divert some parts of the process into fuel, air, and other required processes. It's incredibly compelling, highly technical (informed by modern AI models) research.

      • fuzztester 19 minutes ago
        >a lot of Korean food is fermented

        Examples, other than kimchi and probably some fish sauces? Don't know much about Korean food, but I liked what I tried, the few times I ate at a Korean restaurant.

        • jurip 12 minutes ago
          Gochujang and doenjang are two fermented pastes that are used a lot.
        • Melatonic 5 hours ago
          Check Natto and the equivalent Korean bean ferments !
          • MengerSponge 6 hours ago
            The Noma Guide to Fermentation: https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/rene-redzepi/the-no...

            It's beautiful and useful too!

            • awesome_dude 6 hours ago
              The fermented food that has always blown my mind has been

              <drum roll>

              Chocolate

              I have no idea WHY that should come as a shock to me, but it does

              Honorable mentions also go to Tea and Coffee

              • bane 5 hours ago
                Oh whew, when I finally learned how Chocolate is made....mind blown.

                The Western 19th and 20th centuries's approach to foods have been an incredible disservice to culinary and health history and modernist trends.

                • awesome_dude 5 hours ago
                  My GUESS is that canning really changed Western diets because food could last indefinitely in good condition
          • KaiserPro 2 hours ago
            The food programme is excellent and wide ranging. It talks, more often than not to subject matter experts. Its what the BBC does best.

            If you are not british and want to understand britian's approach to food, then https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01klvhq is your programme.

            • frogulis 4 hours ago
              It occurred to me at some point that what many "fine" foods have in common is fermentation. Tea, coffee, chocolate, cheese, alcohol, cured meats, dry aged meats, others I can't think of right now. Makes sense, as the complex biological processes are of course going to lead to the culinary complexity and variety that is necessary for connoisseurship.
            • anfractuosity 2 hours ago
              Thought that podcast was very interesting. I bought the book - 'textbook of sake brewing' a while ago. I've brewed beer before, but rather fancy trying making sake.