What's the difference between a "disc" and a "disk"? (2023)

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40 points | by IndySun 2 hours ago

23 comments

  • bmacho 1 hour ago
    > In most varieties of English, disk is the preferred spelling for magnetic media (hence floppy disk, hard disk, disk drive), whereas disc is preferred for optical media (hence compact disc, digital versatile disc, optical disc).

    > For all other uses, disk is preferred in American English and acceptable in Canadian English, and disc otherwise.

    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/disk#Usage_notes

    • sandworm101 1 hour ago
      Also, disk is also used in "diskette", whereas disc stands alone. So as magnetic disks shrank and were called disketts on and off, they kept that spelling. Optical discs never really shrank over the years, never being called discettes.
      • oneplane 53 minutes ago
        When they shrank the disc it just became minidisc ;-) But that was technically MO, not just optical. And: it was in a cartridge so I suppose they really should have called it minidisk.
        • irishcoffee 52 minutes ago
          > Also, disk is also used in "diskette", whereas disc stands alone. So as magnetic disks shrank and were called disketts on and off, they kept that spelling. Optical discs never really shrank over the years, never being called discettes.

          How old are you? Nothing you said is accurate.

          • sandworm101 33 minutes ago
            Lol. Old enough to remember when disks were three-dimensional, when you might need more than one hand to carry them. When they shrank we regularly called the newer/small model a diskette.

            From wikipedia: >> A floppy disk, diskette, or floppy diskette is a type of disk storage made from a thin, flexible disk coated with a magnetic storage medium. It is enclosed in a square or nearly square plastic shell lined with fabric to help remove dust from the spinning disk.

      • sedatk 1 hour ago
        The term "disc" for storage predates optical media. "Disc" was the common spelling for a disk (like a floppy disk) on British 8-bit computers like Amstrad CPC or Sinclair Spectrum.[1][2]

        It seems like the distinction simply comes from British and American preferences.[3]

        I have no idea how Apple jumped to such an arbitrary conclusion.

        [1] Kempston Disc Interface manual: https://k1.spdns.de/Vintage/Sinclair/82/Peripherals/Disc%20I...

        [2] Amstrad Disc Drive Interface manual: https://www.cpcwiki.eu/imgs/3/3f/DDI-1_User_Manual.pdf

        [3] Etymonline entry for "disk": https://www.etymonline.com/word/disk

        • Doctor_Fegg 1 hour ago
          Disk was already the standard spelling in the UK by 1984 (in a computing context), just as program was used in preference to programme. But Amstrad mistyped it as disc on the plastic mouldings for their first CPC, and were too cheap to change them. Consequently CPC 3in disks were always called discs even into the 90s.
      • MarkusQ 1 hour ago
        This is goofy. The difference was originally regional (US/UK), and which caught on depended on which product dominated which sub-market. There's no semantic difference.
        • innocentoldguy 1 hour ago
          Philips is the company that came up with the term "Compact Disc" for CDs, so we can blame them for goofing up the regional spellings and making the world more confusing.

          I think Alan Shugart (or at least his team at IBM) started calling portable data disks "floppy disks," and then "hard disk" emerged to differentiate rigid disks from bendy ones. Maybe we can also blame him and his team.

          The important thing is that someone gets blamed. :D

        • fainpul 1 hour ago
          And where is the "drive" in an SSD?

          Trying to explain arbitrary words with logic always fails.

        • coffee-- 1 hour ago
          There was a subculture communicating on FIDOnet about collecting AOL installation media (3.5" disks) and reusing them. Somehow we ended up coining the term "bisk" to refer to AOL's given-away media, and much sadness was had when they moved to CDs.

          So add one more to the list: a commercial disk reused for your custom .WAD files can be a bisk.

          • OhMeadhbh 1 hour ago
            Tron, if I remember correctly, had DISCS instead of DISKS. And if modern CPUs are RISCy, then maybe modern Intel architecture CPUs are Risky.
            • bonesss 1 hour ago
              The last letter.

              [Did I pass the interview? No? Understandable.]

              • rikthevik 1 hour ago
                A disc looks like a disc, and a disk doesn't look like a disc.
                • addaon 1 hour ago
                  Always thought that “disc” was the original word for an object of a certain shape. As they evolved for computer storage, we got smaller diskettes… which were abbreviated to disks.
                  • delichon 1 hour ago

                      sceptic - skeptic
                      mollusc - mollusk
                      celt - kelt
                      cabob - kabob
                      disc - disk
                    
                    Corporate wants you to find the difference.
                    • 9rx 1 hour ago
                      sceptic - someone inclined to question or doubt what they sense optically.

                      skeptic - someone inclined to question or doubt what they sense magnetically.

                    • asdfman123 1 hour ago
                      As a quick and dirty heuristic: the C in disc is for CD (or other optical media).
                      • gaigalas 1 hour ago
                        Apple, the etymology company.
                        • OhMeadhbh 1 hour ago
                          They certainly do have bugs.

                          [Edit. Sorry, misread your comment as saying "entomology."]

                        • adamdonahue 1 hour ago
                          So a floppy disk has a disc inside?
                          • KwanEsq 1 hour ago
                            No because they weren't optical, they were magnetic.
                            • onraglanroad 1 hour ago
                              Yes it did. They were magnetic disks. And they were floppy. The outer case of a 3.5" was solid but just rip it open and you can see the disk itself is floppy.

                              Edit: oh right, you're talking about the different spellings. Those were entirely arbitrary. We mixed between the two.

                            • irishcoffee 1 hour ago
                              Sure does.
                            • dTal 1 hour ago
                              Disc = round part visible

                              Disk = round part hidden or no round part

                              Have I got it!?

                              • Someone 1 hour ago
                                I think their primary difference is disc = optical, disk = magnetic. That’s what they mention first.

                                All of that “in the UK”.

                                Looking at the store, they’re using “SSD Storage” for SSD.

                                • Symbiote 1 hour ago
                                  The British spelling was used by Philips when they launched the Compact Disc with Sony.

                                  Disk was used by American companies inventing hard disks, floppy disks etc.

                                  British software often used "disc" for both, e.g. RISC OS on Acorn/ARM/Raspberry Pi [1].

                                  [1] https://arcwiki.org.uk/index.php/RISC_OS_3 (see screenshot)

                                  • HPsquared 1 hour ago
                                    SSD could stand for "SSD Storage Device".

                                    Bring back recursive acronyms!

                                    • Wowfunhappy 1 hour ago
                                      SSD, of course, stands for Solid State Dis[c,k]...
                                      • andrewshadura 1 minute ago
                                        Disck.
                                        • 9rx 1 hour ago
                                          Solid State Drive, usually, but when it comes to language anything goes.
                                    • _wire_ 46 minutes ago
                                      A disk is any planar circular shape.

                                      A disc is a disk-shaped object, such as in the form of a plastic dingus: Frisbee flying disc.

                                      • dboreham 48 minutes ago
                                        Presumably this apple page is someone's idea of an April fool, date notwithstanding.

                                        "Disc" is the correct spelling of the flat circular thing.

                                        "Disk" was invented by someone in the 1980s either as an attempt at a trade name, or because they couldn't spell.

                                        Then other people continued the mis spelling.

                                        • irishcoffee 50 minutes ago
                                          Does anyone have a spate tire? My tyre popped, probably because someone jammed a 'y' in the middle.
                                          • Gualdrapo 1 hour ago
                                            When I was much more active in Reddit did one time a meme for r/peloton of Froome yelling at disc brakes - but wrote it as "Old man yells at disk brakes".

                                            Nobody told me anything so I guessed it was good grammar and such.

                                            But then noticed everyone calls them "disc brakes"

                                            • dheera 1 hour ago
                                              What about bloc vs block
                                              • ChrisArchitect 1 hour ago
                                                "Disks" as in floppy disks, are removable also. Some weird seperation choices in this 'article'.
                                                • dcminter 1 hour ago
                                                  Plus a common alternative to "hard drive" was "hard disk."

                                                  My late father never quite got out of the habit of calling it the "Winchester" - itself a nickname for a specific IBM drive model.

                                                  • onraglanroad 1 hour ago
                                                    More modern hard disks included the drive mechanism in one unit.

                                                    They used to be separate, so you would mount the hard disk on the drive to make it accessible.

                                                    • dcminter 38 minutes ago
                                                      Yeah, we used to have a couple of the removable phoenix platters knocking around.

                                                      Of course now everything tends to be solid state even terms like "drive" are becoming less common.

                                                • ghurtado 1 hour ago
                                                  Kinda surprising that the article doesn't mention the actual origin of the words:

                                                  "Disc" comes from "discus" (the plate thrown in the Olympics)

                                                  "Disk" comes from "diskette" (French for "small disc")

                                                  I probably just outed myself as a boomer assuming that was common knowledge.

                                                  • forty 1 hour ago
                                                    Disquette*

                                                    In French we say disque for both. it's pronounced the same as disk and disc.

                                                    • rf15 1 hour ago
                                                      You are (rightfully) saying that they semantically mean kinda the same thing. That doesn't neatly fit any branding guideline though, I'm sorry.
                                                      • bitwize 1 hour ago
                                                        Both versions are disque in French. (presumably disquette for "diskette") Don't blame the French for this.

                                                        The fact of the matter is that the spelling "disk" probably entered common use from IBM who invented both the hard and the floppy disk, calling the latter the Type 1 Diskette. Enough people were exposed to the "disk" spelling from IBM usage that it kind of stuck, although in the early 1980s the spelling "floppy disc" was sometimes encountered.

                                                        • DonHopkins 1 hour ago
                                                          Pff! Disc comes from Disco!