Revision Demoparty 2026: Razor1911 [video]

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383 points | by tetrisgm 4 days ago

37 comments

  • vintermann 4 days ago
    There were many really nice demos on Revision this year. Hacker News favorite (and mine, too!) LFT put out another microcontroller demo, Sum Ergo Demonstro:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=v8zKDotYh9A&is=xAbW7VZVGLn0986B

    But I think my favorite so far from the ones I've seen has to be Second Nature, an OCS Amiga demo by Desire & The Twitch Elite, and music by Hoffman.

    • contingencies 3 days ago
      Classic first comment on the Youtube video: Hey lft, I designed the RISC-V core you're using, and I had a ton of fun watching and re-watching this video and trying to guess some of the tricks you used. Awesome work and I'm looking forward to a write-up!
      • HellMood 4 days ago
        i second that. "Second Nature" is also my party favorite! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFVxntafsXM&t=1764s
        • dark-star 3 days ago
          How they pulled that off on a stock A500 (okay, a stock A500 with 512kb RAM expansion, but still) is far beyond me. It's pretty awesome and really deserved the 1st place
          • emchammer 3 days ago
            It's a really uplifting break compared to all the other news coming out now.
      • masternight 4 days ago
        Ah wow.

        I really enjoyed the demoscene back in the 90s. Was never a part of it but I was always fascinated by the effects and music and ascii art that these guys created.

        A BBS in my city always had the latest e-zines like Reality Check Network and Affinity, and others I forget. Reading up on the scene and about groups like Razor1911 was something I spent a lot of time on when I was younger.

        Amazing demo and homage to the era.

        • philxor 3 days ago
          It is a great demo and really nostalgic. I was briefly a courier for Razor 1911 in the mid 90s. I recognize many of the handles throughout the demo and in the list at the end, and even BBS names if you slow down or pause some parts of the demo. So certainly brings back a lot of good memories. The music is great also.
          • tetrisgm 2 days ago
            Thanks for your service, you got kids like me into PCs back then.
          • TacticalCoder 3 days ago
            > I really enjoyed the demoscene back in the 90s. Was never a part of it but I was always fascinated by the effects and music and ascii art that these guys created.

            It was quite something... I take it there are quite a few hotshots on HN who used to be in the top groups. I was in a group and we were writing small intros for BBSes with a couple of friends and then we'd get infinite leech/upload ratio on those BBSes. Best memory was driving through Belgium / the Netherlands / Denmark / putting the car on the boat / Sweden (Uppsala) with our computers (Amiga, Atari ST and PCs) to participate at a demo compo. Forgot its name but in the PC category we tied first place with Future Crew (we would have been first had I not screwed the sound playback routine which crashed half-way the demo), before they had their big breakthrough on the PC demoscene. I think that was in 1991.

            Cops/customs stopped us as the boat arrived in Sweden and thought we were dealing drugs: they tore the car apart and had no idea what we were talking about when we were explaining them in broken english that we were going to participate in a demo compo :-/

            I still have a few effects as executables but I don't have the code anymore for these.

            Thankfully I still have the entire source code of a game I made in assembly (for PC / 386+) in 1991 (never published but it's how my career started, long story) and lately I've been having a huge lot of fun trying to compile it again with Claude Code CLI / Sonnet. I'm using UASM, which is compatible with MASM which I used to use. I managed to have all the utilities I wrote back then (picture converters / sprites extractor / etc.) compiling and running (in DOSBox) but haven't managed to compile the main game yet. A few more hours with Claude Code CLI and I should get it running.

            FWIW it's hilarious to go back to code from 1991 and see comments in my code talking about this and that bug and asking the LLM: "Find where that bug could be" and the LLM manages to find it. It's also insane the lack of version control: version control was copying entire directories. Copy/pasta code everywhere. And then 10 000 lines of code per source code file.

            What an era. Diving in that old code of mine brings me back: the decades they've been flying.

            P.S: funnily enough by lack of luck a macro I had used back then happen to become a reserved keyword/macro in assemblers later on. I had named back then a macro "incbin" and that was preventing my code from compiling in UASM: Claude Code / Sonnet 4.6 found that issue instantly.

            P.P.S: 0x777 in hex gives 1911. RZR, legendary: probably the most legendary of them all. Probably still have a few 5"1/4 floppies (both C64 and Amiga for I had an Amiga with a little software mod to read 5"1/4 floppies as if they were 3"1/2 for the 5"1/4 were way cheaper) with Razor 1911 "cracktros" (even if they weren't called that yet) still working (back in 2020 quite a few of my floppies were still reading: maybe half to 2/3rd of them). I know it won't last, nothing will.

            • e12e 3 days ago
              > It's also insane the lack of version control: version control was copying entire directories.

              I can understand that - under dos - but as I recall quite a lot of gnu/nix tooling was workable on the Amiga - RCS harks back to 1984...

              • masternight 3 days ago
                > I was in a group and we were writing small intros for BBSes with a couple of friends

                Ah that would have been such an awesome time. Thanks for sharing!

                • DrJokepu 3 days ago
                  What are using as a linker? Also, do you use protected mode and if yes, what do you use for that, PMODE or CWSDPMI or something else?
                  • TacticalCoder 3 days ago
                    It's an old MS-DOS .EXE. Actually it compiles with the ".286" directive too. So I don't use protected mode.

                    It requires a VGA card and those were more common in 386 IIRC and, anyway, performance-wise to run at 60 Hz it needs a 386. I never tried to run it on a 286 with a VGA card: don't know if that was a thing.

                    It's funny looking at that old assembly code and see ax, bx, cx, dx registers and not the eax, etc. ones.

                    The utilities I've compiled to .EXE so far are self-contained in one file and I just use UASM to create directly the .EXE:

                        uasm -mz myutil.asm
                    
                    UASM v2.57 does the job in my case (note that I compile from Linux: UASM exists for several platforms/OSes):

                    https://www.terraspace.co.uk/uasm.html

                    I haven't tried yet to compile the entire game yet: that one is more involved as it implies many files.

                    • Narishma 3 days ago
                      VGA was pretty common on 286, I even had an SVGA card on my own back in the day. And it also had protected mode but was still 16-bit.
                      • TacticalCoder 3 days ago
                        > VGA was pretty common on 286, I even had an SVGA card on my own back in the day. And it also had protected mode but was still 16-bit.

                        Oh that's intriguing. Well I still have one, so now I'll have to find a VGA card and see if my code even works on a 286!

              • pierrec 3 days ago
                The parts where it exits fullscreen and starts messing around with separate windows is really well done. In a way it's playing with the limits of what defines a demo (ie. the user's desktop is part of the performance), which is something I love to see. Same with the notepad animation part. I wonder if they implemented their own notepad-alike from scratch or it they used something like this: https://kylehalladay.com/blog/2020/05/20/Rendering-With-Note...
                • pogue 4 days ago
                  That was amazing, really great song & visuals too. Takes me back to the days when you couldn't close the keygen because the midi playing was such a banger.

                  https://keygenmusic.tk/

                  • vardump 3 days ago
                    MIDI songs? I checked, I couldn't find any from the link you posted. Most were different module formats, like XM, Protracker, S3M, Impulse Tracker. Those have nothing to do with midi other than they also produce music.
                    • At one point in time, (I think maybe in connection with some mobile phone being able to play .midi files?) MIDI songs was (incorrectly) referring to a style/type of music rather than the transport/protocol we use for sending notes between instruments/devices, or the file format.

                      I'm still since then always assuming the above when someone says "MIDI music"; they really mean "really basic/simple music" or just straight up "chiptune" sometimes.

                      It has nothing to do with MIDI really, just a misnomer.

                      • neonstatic 3 days ago
                        A more appropriate term is "chiptunes". I also heard people refer to it as keygen music.
                        • vardump 3 days ago
                          If it's a tracker module of some kind with very short looping samples, then yeah, it's a chiptune.
                          • neonstatic 3 days ago
                            Right. Basically using simple waveforms either using samples or onboard chip like ZX Spectrum's. For tracker modules with more "normal" samples, we simply referred to them as modules or mods for short.
                            • teddyh 3 days ago
                              IMHO, a “chiptune” is music for an FM synthesis chip, like on the NES, the SID chip in Commodore 64, or the AdLib sound card for PC. A “mod” or “tracker music” is music made for a range of platforms in a rather narrow time-band, that could play digital samples, but could not reasonably store entire songs recorded digitally, like the Amiga, Atari ST, or early PC’s like 386s or 486s.
                              • rzzzt 3 days ago
                                Neither the NES nor the SID employs FM synthesis. I'm not even sure what the collective noun is for these. Wikipedia tells me it's PSG (programmable sound generator).

                                The same behavior could be (also was) teased out of a MOD player if you choose samples with a handful of sample points, like 12. You could also draw up a sawtooth in paint and use that as a sample. These are down-to-earth honest true Scotsman chiptunes.

                                • vardump 3 days ago
                                  Those are SID etc. tunes. Not chiptunes.
                            • Nition 3 days ago
                              I'd say 'MIDI music' became a catch-all for music that's represented as data that is in turn triggering samples, rather than being a pure audio file. Might be actual MIDI or might be tracker music etc.
                            • pogue 3 days ago
                              They've probably been converted over the years, just like you might convert an mp3 into flac or ogg or whatever.
                          • tetrisgm 4 days ago
                            Do you know if someone is hosting these in web radio format so I could stream in a car and such?
                        • JetSetIlly 3 days ago
                          Superb demos this year at Revision. Triplet by Otomata Labs for the Atari 2600 is exceptional

                          Original release video (probably running on Stella)

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEJ0A8Wvdxs

                          And a video of it running on Gopher2600.

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixFH22MxqEg

                          • tetrisgm 4 days ago
                            Legendary demo group Razor 1911 submitted this beautiful demo as the closer for the Revision 2026 demo competition.

                            It is an homage to 40 years of hacking from the group.

                            For context, they were pioneers in both the demoscene and in the warez scene in the 80s-00s.

                          • magicalhippo 3 days ago
                            Really cool retro-mix, and some slick transitions.

                            Most of that was before my time though, so 1995 by Kewlers[1] hit harder for me, since that was when I really got into the demo scene and with it my drive to learn programming.

                            Glad the demo scene is alive and kicking, though I get why a lot is oriented around old hardware, modern hardware makes things too easy almost.

                            [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mtctbodNXY (20 years old this year, now I feel really old)

                          • amatecha 4 days ago
                            Oh man, I watched "non-live" earlier today but hearing the live vers with the crowd audio is amazing. So damn good <3
                            • jansan 3 days ago
                              That Dynamic Duo disk at the beginning reminded me of my friend who got his house raided in 1987 for exchanging (not selling) cracked computer games for the C64 at the age of 18 in super rural Germany. He still managed to get into the army as an officer.
                              • tetrisgm 3 days ago
                                Somebody needed to hack the Soviets! CCC were beasts
                              • rast1234 3 days ago
                                • uzyn 3 days ago
                                  This is so sick!

                                  Revision faded out the credits part, which is still really cool on its own. The full version (10m 16s) can be viewed at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AnbYNudAyM

                                  • Sadly, that full version isn't in 4K, unlike the submission.

                                    But this is Hacker News, we can do much better! Here is the actual binary: https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=105954

                                    Sadly I couldn't get it to work on Linux with Wine/Proton, like a lot of demos they seem to really be using less common paths, so of course it crashes.

                                    • crtasm 3 days ago
                                      the nfo notes >This demo will not run on intel iris gpus and only in 1080p
                                      • pocksuppet 3 days ago
                                        Just install pirated Windows in a VM (really the only valid way to run Windows these days). Razor would approve.
                                        • SteltekOne 2 days ago
                                          [dead]
                                      • NKosmatos 4 days ago
                                        I upvote every post related to the demoscene due to my age, so I couldn't let this one, especially when it's coming from RZR. Imagine if we could get a new release from FC as well in 2026 (40 years since their founding)!!!

                                        More about Razor 1911 and Future Crew for the young readers of HN: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Razor_1911 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Crew

                                        P.S. Too many groups to mention, but these two hold a special place in my mind ;-)

                                        P.S.2. Extra mention to the most famous Greek demo group - ASD (Andromeda Software Development) - https://www.pouet.net/groups.php?which=1317

                                        • whizzter 3 days ago
                                          Razor 1911 and FC are different in that FC was one of those team/friend-groups that depended more on a constellation of people working together and producing until life took them away to other things.

                                          Razor, Fairlight and some others became more of continious groups with evolving memberships (I was briefly a member of the demoteam back in 1999 and did one production in association with the people that moved over to Fairlight).

                                          • tetrisgm 3 days ago
                                            Damn, that’s awesome. Any memory to share?
                                            • whizzter 3 days ago
                                              Wasn't a member for too long, I think there was some anti-piracy raids around that time that I vaguely remember where some of the fallout for whatever reason was the other guys going over to Fairlight but I were already involved enough with other groups (and our highschool equivalent or perhaps work by that time?).

                                              Funniest thing perhaps is that Smash was a musician back then for 2 things where I did the code (one musicdisc and one joke intro), Smash then went on to become a damn accomplished coder of quite a few famous Fairlight demos, Sony tools and made the commercial Notch visual toolset/editor/player that has roots in the Fairlight demoeditor codebase (Notch startup logo often pops up in democompos for those that haven't followed the scene).

                                              • tetrisgm 3 days ago
                                                Oh yeah Smash is god tier. Saw his name on so many amazing FLT demos
                                          • tetrisgm 4 days ago
                                            ASD - Spin lives rent free in my head. I remember a colleague explaining how the morphing between meshes was really just random noise but the proximity and speed made it look like a real transformation. So cool.

                                            Should out to TheBlackLotus, Fairlight, Orange, CNCD also for those of you who want to look up epic demos.

                                            • ErneX 3 days ago
                                              I also liked Triton. They made great demos and also FastTracker 2!
                                              • xyproto 3 days ago
                                                FT2 was written in Borland Pascal 7 and TASM, btw.
                                                • ErneX 3 days ago
                                                  Shout out also to Cubic Team, I spent countless hours using Cubic Player, they also made some cool demos/intros.
                                              • bananaboy 4 days ago
                                                CNCD and Orange are two of my most favorite groups! Inside, Secret Life of Mr Black, Megablast are some of my favorites of all time.
                                              • pjc50 3 days ago
                                                Future Crew's "Second Reality" was my introduction to demos, back in the 486 PC days.
                                                • tomaytotomato 4 days ago
                                                  Yes - Razor 1911 was a core memory unlocked.

                                                  Along with Skidrow and Paradox crews

                                                • Incipient 4 days ago
                                                  Demos used to have sizes - I can't see one for this, is it just an 'open' category? This thing is far too insane to be size limited, surely?
                                                  • skrebbel 4 days ago
                                                    In demoscene nomenclature, an "intro" is a demo with a sizelimit. This was entered in the demo compo, ergo "no size limit".

                                                    With file size, most democoders go all the way, both ways. By that I mean that if they choose a sizelimit category, they squeeze out every last byte, and if they don't, most don't care about filesize at all. There's demos these days that are many times bigger than an acceptable video recording would be because nobody bothered to eg compress the assets, it includes an entire game engine, etc. Like 800MB for a 3 minute audiovisual show. Kinda ridiculous but it's just.. well, call it either laziness or focused pragmatism :-) Gotta get that prod out before the deadline!

                                                    The Razor1911 zip[1] is 30MB, which actually is very much on the small side for a current-day demo.

                                                    [1] https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=105954 has a download link

                                                    • whizzter 3 days ago
                                                      30 megs is like 2005 era size :D , obvious that it's realtime stuff (and music is probably a significant fraction?).
                                                      • > The Razor1911 zip[1] is 30MB, which actually is very much on the small side for a current-day demo.

                                                        > and music is probably a significant fraction?

                                                        For the Razor1911.exe in the ZIP which ends up being 31MB on disk, which is almost entirely made out of a compressed 145MB executable, whose size is mostly 48 PNG files (11MB), 69MB of zeros (nice?), 329 compiled DirectX shader blobs (DXBC) totaling 6MB, One large MP3 of about 17MB and finally like 34MB of what seems to be other types of runtime data like asset tables, font and UI data,

                                                        • whizzter 3 days ago
                                                          Seems about right then, my guess was about a third for music, classic 128kbps mp3's are at about a meg a minute (960kb/m) so this is at a slightly higher bitrate. Not sure how compressible those parts are but between half and a third in the end depending on the final compressor checks out.
                                                          • crtasm 3 days ago
                                                            from the nfo >Sorry for the not very optimized file size for this party version, we'll make sure to push a PROPER once Revision 2026 is finished
                                                            • skrebbel 3 days ago
                                                              Love the 69MB of zeros.
                                                      • This came up in the Discord party chat, basically there isn't a size limit in the rules[1], but going beyond 2GB would be concerning that it's not a real-time demo but instead just playback of animation.

                                                        [1] https://2026.revision-party.net/competitions/pc/

                                                        • tetrisgm 4 days ago
                                                          Edit: better answer below

                                                          Idk what Revision actually enforces but that used to be the rule at Assembly.

                                                          For the 1k, 4k, retro systems etc it’s specified!

                                                          • skrebbel 4 days ago
                                                            Revision had no maximum filesize in the demo compo.
                                                            • SteltekOne 2 days ago
                                                              Demos were limited to 2GiB. Size-coding competitions, like PC Intros, were of course limited to the size of their respective category (256 Byte, 4K, 8K, 64K).
                                                        • allenu 4 days ago
                                                          Beautiful. Masterfully done. I love all the BBS-era aesthetics and callouts. I hadn't seen FILE_ID.DIZ art in forever.
                                                          • tetrisgm 4 days ago
                                                            When I was learning to make games and just hack around the pc, I used to try to copy paste the characters from their nfos to make my own “releases” of mini mods. Didn’t know there were ascii drawing programs! Wonder if you did the same. I’m sure we all did but pre www era made it difficult!
                                                            • allenu 4 days ago
                                                              Copy-pasting is a clever way to do it!

                                                              I used to use TheDraw for doing ANSI art, but I also ended up making my own ANSI drawing tool back then. It's stupid to think of now, but one reason I made it was because I had a monochrome monitor, so I couldn't "see" color. I wanted a feature where I could put the cursor over a character and it would tell me the color there when I was drawing so I could still use color in the work.

                                                              I wasn't prolific, but did do a handful of ANSI art pieces for local BBS SysOps who liked them well enough. Only later on I realized when I got an actual color monitor that I had a few color mistakes in them and they never told me. lol

                                                              • tetrisgm 4 days ago
                                                                Damn, more OG than me. I must have looked up to you and your peers back then! It’s crazy how it was so common to just go in a hex editor and mess with files to see what would happen. Would love to see a submission of what you / group / other notables did.
                                                              • california-og 3 days ago
                                                                I keep a list of all current ASCII art (and related + other creative tools) editors out there, if you're interested:

                                                                https://hlnet.notion.site/text-art-tools

                                                                I recommend Moebius for traditional ASCII and ANSI art.

                                                                • tetrisgm 3 days ago
                                                                  That's sick. Ty for sharing!
                                                                • Morromist 4 days ago
                                                                  I dabble in ASCII art and use Playscii these days. Its still pretty hard to make amazing looking art even with these great tools, which just shows how legendary the demoscene is.
                                                              • tetrisgm 4 days ago
                                                                The song can be gotten for free / pay what you want at: https://dubmood.bandcamp.com/track/fighting-words-feat-goto8...
                                                              • andrepd 4 days ago
                                                                My first time hearing the name RAZOR1911 was on the cracktro for GTA IV, which had this banger of a music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy4-9PsZHqI
                                                                • tetrisgm 3 days ago
                                                                  The game was notoriously hard to crack too. Rockstar had a lot of former demosceners, so they put all sorts of protection that would mess with the game.

                                                                  I recall my friend describing Nico being randomly drunk, or vehicles suddenly accelerating. Razor eventually nailed it iirc

                                                                • keyle 4 days ago
                                                                  I like that you linked the live show instead of the video of the demo alone, as the crowd noise adds to the experience.
                                                                  • tetrisgm 4 days ago
                                                                    This demo is a salute to everyone in the scene. And it’s emotional. Had to be this version!
                                                                  • igleria 4 days ago
                                                                    as a broke kid from the third world, the amount of coping Razor1911 enabled for me with gaming got me through high school during the 2000s (edit due to not finishing a sentence originally) cannot be understated.
                                                                    • bowmessage 4 days ago
                                                                      incredible work!

                                                                      such a nice way to remember their fallen teammates at the end there.

                                                                      • tetrisgm 4 days ago
                                                                        First time the shout outs weren’t just respect or cheese. RIP, til Valhalla.

                                                                        PS: I never knew Westbam (of Love Parade fame?!) was involved.

                                                                        • janfoeh 4 days ago
                                                                          Different Westbam. The DJ you're thinking of is still alive.
                                                                    • dom96 4 days ago
                                                                      Absolutely amazing.

                                                                      Nice to be reminded that Revision is still active, on my bucket list to visit at least once in my life.

                                                                      • ttoinou 3 days ago
                                                                        Wow, and this is their “mid career retrospective”. Wait for the end of caree retrospective…
                                                                        • stego-tech 3 days ago
                                                                          Damn, this made my entire week. Absolute legends.

                                                                          Release is here: https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=105954

                                                                          • ttoinou 3 days ago
                                                                            Anyone understand why multiple demos have voices singing now.. how do they do it ?
                                                                          • tomaytotomato 4 days ago
                                                                            Wow, a real throwback to my earlier years exploring the Warez scene as cash poor teenager, which meant you had to get creative to find what you wanted.

                                                                            Looking back in my 30s, I think part of my brain has atrophied because I can now purchase and download games and content with a few clicks on Steam and £40, which will be ready to play after dinner.

                                                                            Before you had to think and search forums (both public and private) for DDL links, CD keys, cracks, passwords to unzip files.

                                                                            Then once you had downloaded these multiple RAR/Zip files you then had to check and verify them for corruption or viruses. After that it was reading the sacred README.nfo file included in the crack zip. Which if you didn't specify to open in Notepad or Notepad++, it would open the Windows System information window.

                                                                            The last stage before firing up a game was the patching/cracking phase; that could involved things like editing hosts files, unplugging or disconnecting from the internet, or modifying your firewall to prevent network requests for anti-piracy software. Then you ran your crack or copied a patched .exe file over into the game directory. Aye presto, you're ready to fire up (hopefully it didn't have a virus or rootkit)

                                                                            ...but wait there is no loading videos or splash screen (panic). Well that's because the pirates were saving storage space and removed unnecessary game videos and music assets.

                                                                            <Play game> Bioshock

                                                                            Ah, that was a nice nostalgia trip.

                                                                            Also for any other nostalgia trippers, do you remember the first thing you always installed was a cracked version of WinRar (before 7zip became cool), running on a fresh install of Windows_7_SP3_BLACK_EDITION_XXX.iso

                                                                            • tetrisgm 4 days ago
                                                                              Such a throwback. If you were doing floppies there was the whole sing and dance you’d do with pkzip or arj to split your files across many disks!
                                                                            • krige 4 days ago
                                                                              Excellent demo and good music to go with it. My favorite part was probably the X-Copy sector map transitioning into a 3D cube with a running sprite.
                                                                            • time4tea 1 day ago
                                                                              One of the most uplifting things I've seen for a long while.

                                                                              Amazing artistry and skills.

                                                                              • WhitneyLand 3 days ago
                                                                                Great music.

                                                                                Bright White Lightning, but didn’t see a track name.

                                                                                Overall, wow.

                                                                              • Cthulhu_ 3 days ago
                                                                                Awesome, I remember some of these from back when, mostly from the 90's and early 2000's I believe.
                                                                                • OMG. Thanks so much for posting this - completely awesome! Such a nostalgic roller coaster ride, from Qmodem to Xcopy and everything in between... brought back so many memories... - thanks again!
                                                                                • esafak 3 days ago
                                                                                  I think a modern equivalent might be WebGPU. Anybody doing cool stuff that? I'd like to see the code.
                                                                                • hugodan 3 days ago
                                                                                  Isn’t AI affecting the demoscene as it is affecting other programming hobbies? Why?
                                                                                  • laurentlb 3 days ago
                                                                                    There have been lots of discussions around AI in the demoscene. Revision limits how you can use AI (https://2026.revision-party.net/competitions/general-rules/), even if it's not always enforceable.

                                                                                    There's a lot of push back against AI-generated graphics and music. For code, it's more difficult to know. AI is used by some people to automate the boring tasks, so that they can focus more on the artistic side.

                                                                                    • Jare 3 days ago
                                                                                      At revision there was a cool seminar about the author of a music synth who used AI to modernize it. He begun his talk with words for the audience along the lines of "Please don't do a Life of Brian, I am not here saying Jehova".

                                                                                      It makes sense that a creative medium with a long tradition of pushing boundaries of what people can create, frowns on use of generative tech unless you have created it yourself. Back in the day the pushback was against using AMOS, or a PC, or programming in C, or using a GPU, or using MP3, or using Photoshop, or using another group's demo engine, or using a commercial game engine, or... AI is just the latest. And like its predecessors, it will gain legitimacy if people create genuinely interesting experiences with it.

                                                                                      • unixhero 3 days ago
                                                                                        Game engines and their useage hit harder

                                                                                        Demos are now often using Unreal engine Unity Godot

                                                                                      • ptype 4 days ago
                                                                                        not sure I've experienced goosebumps like this before
                                                                                        • 0xbs0d 4 days ago
                                                                                          This is awesome!
                                                                                          • tetrisgm 4 days ago
                                                                                            A lot of old school demo enthusiasts cried. These guys cracked all the games we couldn’t afford as kids/teens and did the coolest demos and cracktros to show off how cool they were. I saw them as high tech Robin Hoods. Hope you were around for that!
                                                                                          • moodiverse 4 days ago
                                                                                            Nice!
                                                                                            • dist-epoch 3 days ago
                                                                                              Did they state if/how much AI agents they used in creating this demo?
                                                                                              • vrganj 3 days ago
                                                                                                How many inkjet printers did Da Vinci use for the Mona Lisa?
                                                                                                • tetrisgm 3 days ago
                                                                                                  None. That would defeat the entire purpose
                                                                                                  • unkeen 3 days ago
                                                                                                    Of course they used none.
                                                                                                    • leptons 3 days ago
                                                                                                      Tell us you don't understand the demoscene without telling us you don't understand the demoscene.
                                                                                                      • bcjdjsndon 2 days ago
                                                                                                        Aren't you in your 70s? What's with the juvenile parlance?
                                                                                                        • leptons 2 days ago
                                                                                                          70s? Where did you pull that out of, your ass?
                                                                                                    • conceptme 3 days ago
                                                                                                      absolute banger :D
                                                                                                      • unixhero 3 days ago
                                                                                                        I know. I must have replayed it 20 times already
                                                                                                      • MrBuddyCasino 4 days ago
                                                                                                        Direct link with the correct timecode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw4W9V57SKs&t=5716s
                                                                                                        • tetrisgm 4 days ago
                                                                                                          Ty. I pinged the mods and they updated it