Sweden becomes a smoke-free country

(thelocal.se)

34 points | by Teever 1 hour ago

6 comments

  • some_random 31 minutes ago
    What a masterclass in modern spin:

    1: Take a problem, in this case tobacco consumption

    2: Isolate a part of it, ideally a the part that is most visible and/or easiest to go after. As others have mentioned, Sweden has a large culture of non-smoked tobacco consumption

    3: Define an easily achieved win condition, brand it as complete success. In this case "smoke-free" means under 1 in 20 Swedes smoke

    4: Get your buddies in the press to publish breathless articles on your 'Incredible' milestone

    5 (ideally optional): If anyone ever tries to hold you accountable, double down.

    • SR2Z 21 minutes ago
      To be entirely fair, a whole country switching from smoking to safer oral nicotine is a massive health win. The bad things in cigarettes are mostly not nicotine.
      • buzer 3 minutes ago
        To be clear they commonly use snus which is tobacco product, not just nicotine pouch. It shares many of the health issues associated with smoking tobacco and also has it's own ones (e.g. related to gum health).
        • nousermane 10 minutes ago
          Also - less passive smoking!

          Personally, I don't mind somebody consuming snus short distance upwind from me. Smoking, on the other hand... Please, don't.

        • hvb2 12 minutes ago
          > If anyone ever tries to hold you accountable, double down.

          Basically the entire policy of the current US administration summed up in a sentence lol

          • some_random 1 minute ago
            You only think that because you don't consume news from other nations.
        • Nesco 53 minutes ago
          Last time I went there I saw a founder that couldn’t do an interview without changing zyn pouches every literal five (5) minutes
          • dehrmann 34 minutes ago
            FT ran this headline a few days ago: French nicotine pouch ban is ‘attack on Swedish way of life’, minister says
          • belval 1 hour ago
            > Smoke-free

            > Less than 5%

            Incredible milestone but when 1 in 20 is still smoking I feel like it's a bit early to call yourself smoke free.

            • SoftTalker 53 minutes ago
              As a child in the 1970s I visited family there and my memory is that it seemed like every adult and older teen smoked. Often filterless. So it's quite a change in a few decades.
              • vondur 42 minutes ago
                I think everywhere in the west was like that in the 70s.
                • philipallstar 52 minutes ago
                  I think the UK is lower than this - it's pretty unusual to see people smoking. Far less common than on the continent.
              • stunseed 25 minutes ago
                Yeah... I live here, and I would definitely not call us smoke free. But it's gotten better.
                • darth_avocado 27 minutes ago
                  If 1 in 20 is smoke free, I’m declaring the 1 in 10 rate in the us as ALMOST smoke free.
                • porsager 15 minutes ago
                  Correction. Only 5% admit to smoking
                  • TazeTSchnitzel 57 minutes ago
                    Sweden is unusual in that it has a culture of using snus, a non-smoking tobacco preparation, and in fact it is unique among the EU member states in having it actually be legal (it's banned EU-wide, but Sweden got an opt-out in the accession negotiations). Neighbouring Norway also has legal snus but Norway isn't a full EU member.

                    This probably contributes to the low smoking rates, but it also means that Swedish politicians love acting like the tobacco industry is their best friend,[1][2] because it's in the national interest to protect this uniquely Swedish tradition or whatever. And recently, the so-called white snus (Swedicism; English name is nicotine pouches, only Sweden considers this a kind of snus) like ZYN is a way for the Swedish tobacco industry to get a new generation of young people hooked in nicotine, interestingly including ones outside Sweden.

                    [1] https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/regeringen-presenterade-t...

                    [2] https://www.svt.se/nyheter/utrikes/svenskar-i-eu-pratar-flit...

                    • EmilStenstrom 51 minutes ago
                      Here's a free, fact-packed, breakdown on both smoking and "snus" in Sweden: https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/the-public-health-agency...

                      Numbers are from 2024, but smoking was at 5.4%, and snus at 15.7%.

                      • TazeTSchnitzel 42 minutes ago
                        > The increase [in use of snus] is particularly evident among women aged 16–29 years, where the proportion of daily snus users has risen from 3 percent in 2018 to 18 percent in 2024.

                        Geez that's a little alarming. Looks like that's basically all down to nicotine pouches too.

                      • impossiblefork 4 minutes ago
                        Yes, the whole thing is remarkably awful. Disgusting too.
                        • calvinmorrison 55 minutes ago
                          We will not tolerate snus slander here! long live swedish match
                          • lawn 42 minutes ago
                            As I Swede snus can suck it.
                            • Y-bar 49 minutes ago
                              I will openly hate on Swedish snusers until they stop littering their pouches and cakes every-damn-where. Some of those guys even throw it onto indoor ceilings. It’s disgusting.
                              • MonitorBird 44 minutes ago
                                In korea people will chug through americanos like its water and dump the cups on the streets because there are no trash cans. If they had nic pouches there there is a good chance theyd clog the sewer system.

                                Id still take nic pouches and plastic cups over cig smoking losers anyday of the week

                          • nephihaha 57 minutes ago
                            I wonder what their next moral/health/social/environmental crusade will be. Governments have made vast sums out of tobacco duty, so what do they need to make up for that?