15 comments

  • raychis 5 minutes ago
    Interesting approach to large scale visualisation. Moving reduction into Rust and sending screen bounded data to WebGL seems much more sensible than pushing millions of raw points into the browser. How does it perform with real time updates? I am assuming it is much more performant? Any plans for a prod deployment?
    • hantusk 6 minutes ago
      Check out mosaic from uwdata which works on top of Observable plot

      Or plotly-resampler which works on top of plotly and uses the rust package tsdownsample to aggregate on the 4pixels per pixel shown level (to make antialias work)

      the grammar of graphics approach really is a great abstraction, and I'd love to see xy work in that direction

      • kasts 3 hours ago
        I’m not convinced GPU acceleration is a meaningful advantage for most charting use cases. Most dashboards don’t render enough data for it to matter. Once a chart is dense enough for rendering to become the bottleneck, it normally is already be too crowded to be meaningful. Zooming can justify supporting larger datasets, but sampling/viewport culling and level of detail often avoid drawing unnecessary points...
        • Evidlo 3 hours ago
          I constantly have to work around the slowness of matplotlib when creating animated sequences for my scientific work (even with the Agg back end)
          • apetuskey 2 hours ago
            How many points are you working with usually?
          • apetuskey 3 hours ago
            It depends on how much data you are planning on showing, but as you can see from the benchmarks its also more performant than other python charting libs for small data.

            We also built this library for extreme customization with CSS/Tailwind support so rendering large amounts of data is an important but not the only advantage.

            • formerly_proven 3 hours ago
              There are some niche charting applications which are offloaded to FPGAs and even ASICs.
            • ahns 1 hour ago
              Interesting; how do the examples compare to datashader?

              Edit: for my use cases, I use napari (~1e7-8 points) if I need true interactivity; otherwise, datashader/holoviz, or even just fast-histogram's 2D histograms work.

              For extremely large point clouds, these caveats[0] still apply. It irks me when people make dense scatterplots without any indication of just how dense some portions are.

              Still, if it can indeed handle 1e10 points, that's pretty impressive.

              [0]: https://datashader.org/user_guide/Plotting_Pitfalls.html

              • HoneySpoons 1 hour ago
                This is awesome, can easily see this becoming a standard library. Can't wait for the 3D and volume visualizations.
                • adhami 3 hours ago
                  it's possible to render data out-of-core with XY, allowing it to render the entirety of OpenStreetMaps (that's 10,742,674,832 nodes!) with sub-second pan/zooms. it's a bit difficult to host online but you can try it out locally: https://github.com/reflex-dev/xy/tree/main/examples/osm
                  • NickyHeC 4 hours ago
                    been stuck on matplotlib for centuries, academia loves such a change
                    • apetuskey 4 hours ago
                      Thanks! Yes we are working on a Matplotlib compatible Api its very early but we hope to polish it up soon.
                    • kl01 1 hour ago
                      how does this stack up to evilcharts? my main use case is mapping out data onto frontend, and there are a lot of great libraries out there
                    • pcpliu 3 hours ago
                      I misread it as ‘Chatting’ library and I was so confused on the GitHub page.

                      Love rust as the impl.

                      • airstrike 4 hours ago
                        > XY is an extremely fast, interactive, customizable Python charting library for the web
                      • farhan99 4 hours ago
                        Great, Rust and Tailwind CSS two of my favorite things in one.
                        • kl01 2 hours ago
                          absolutely fantastic.
                          • ranger_danger 3 hours ago
                            > written in Rust

                            > XY is an extremely fast, interactive, customizable Python charting library

                            which is it?

                            • xg15 3 hours ago
                              Python libraries can have compiled artifacts that were written in any language. This is such a library.
                              • apetuskey 3 hours ago
                                Its a Python library with some rust in it, to speed up some of the calculations
                              • cozzyd 3 hours ago
                                no support for native GUI?
                              • kl01 2 hours ago
                                super cool!