Nearest Pint

(knowwhereconsulting.co.uk)

35 points | by bookofjoe 5 days ago

6 comments

  • NoboruWataya 41 minutes ago
    Why use FHRS as the source rather than OSM? OSM isn't perfect either but for my area at least it seems a lot more comprehensive.
    • wrboyce 1 hour ago
      Hmm, this dataset is pretty poor. There are at least 3 pubs near me that are missing.
      • wodenokoto 33 minutes ago
        I can't find a single pub using this page, let alone the nearest to me.
        • northernsausage 3 hours ago
          Its only 9am in the UK and the demand means its has already serving a 520.
          • toolslive 2 hours ago
            OK, I think this will be close to an all time record: Leopoldsburg (Belgium, 14k inhabitants) had more than 150 pubs in the 1980s.
            • flir 2 hours ago
              I make that 933:1? Portsmouth (Navy/dockyard town) had 115:1 in the 1860s. (822 pubs and beerhouses against a population of 95k). There was a row of five pubs right outside the dockyard gate.

              I see Leopoldsburg had a large military camp nearby. Same story?

              • falcor84 58 minutes ago
                You're off by a factor of 10: 14k/150 is ~93 residents per pub.
                • kaelyx 1 hour ago
                  Im surprised Newcastle upon Tyne isn't higher on this map. I guess its Density of housing near the center dilutes the ratio
                  • toolslive 2 hours ago
                    yup. soldiers in dire need of a drink
                • jrflo 5 hours ago
                  Really surprising that Inverness and Skye have only 16 pubs considering how much tourism the area has. I felt like it wasn't lacking for pubs but maybe I saw all 16...
                  • wetbaby 4 hours ago
                    A good third of the pubs are missing in my town tbh and they're definitely still open.
                    • CiaranMcNulty 4 hours ago
                      It looks like the data is from OpenStreetMap so maybe you could add them if they’re missing there?
                      • n4r9 3 hours ago
                        If you click the question mark it has:

                        > Pub data is sourced from the Food Hygiene Rating Service (FHRS) via GetTheData Open Pubs

                        https://www.getthedata.com/open-pubs

                        • MrDOS 2 hours ago
                          Ah, interesting. Searching the dataset for my local area, this seems to include some restaurants, but omits hotels entirely. That's skewing the numbers downward tremendously.
                        • 2b3a51 2 hours ago
                          Which explains why Spearmint Rhino is listed in Birmingham (hint: you might get a surprise popping in that establishment for a quick pint).

                          So nice interface and all but some data curation will be needed - perhaps on a crowd sourced basis? Click and add comment &c.

                          • flir 1 hour ago
                            I thought about doing something similar pre-Covid. There are commercial datasets that are more complete (Local Data Company was the one I targeted when I was researching), but... well... £000's a quarter.

                            The project would have had to cover its costs, so the idea went to the great backlog in the sky.

                        • mojo74 3 hours ago
                          I would argue it's your civic duty :)
                        • BoxOfRain 2 hours ago
                          Yeah I'm dogsitting at my childhood home right now and it's missing the rural pubs on the dog route.
                        • pelagicAustral 1 hour ago
                          I was in Inverness a few weeks ago, seems like the tourist season is on, and it was fairly hard to find a pub other than downtown. The other interesting thing is that a lot of them don't seem to not go by the advertised opening times, which later on made total sense based on what an old man told me about the Highlands having their own time.
                          • lostlogin 1 hour ago
                            There were about as many golf courses as pubs when I went through there - but that was a while back.