8 comments

  • skybrian 37 minutes ago
    This could have been an http header. It's hard to identify people, but blocking child-locked devices should be easy, since the devices can be built to cooperate.

    Then it's up to parents to give their kids child-locked devices and for stores to not sell unlocked devices to kids.

    • azhdanova 5 minutes ago
      The court reasoned sensibly: it's wrong to violate the rights of all citizens just to weed out a small group of violators. This is contrary to data protection regulations. The controversial Chat Control law follows the same logic: to find criminals, they propose monitoring everyone.

      The problem is that any age verification system effectively becomes an identity verification system. And such tools rarely remain "just for kids"—they quickly become used for other purposes. The only secure way is to verify not the person's identity, but the device's status (for example, that it's a children's device). This is called age assurance: we confirm age without knowing who exactly is in front of us.

      • graemep 34 minutes ago
        The title is unfortunately edited. The courts have blocked it. The government wants it.
        • hk1337 27 minutes ago
          What I find interesting is that Texas did it with just pornography sites, everyone complains. Then California, which included those that complained by Texas' law, says they're going to do it at the OS level, some people were okay with it but some still opposed it and possibly some others opposed it. Yet, they're still pushing forward with both?
          • zug_zug 44 minutes ago
            Seems like there are many ways to get toward the best of both worlds -- don't allow people to upload pictures of kids who are clearly under 15 to social media would get us a lot of the way there.

            Also all of these companies know from advertising data, and location data, that you are at school, who you are, etc. They would also know that all of your friends are also teenagers.

            If the law is serious there are many many ways to enforce this without violating privacy.

            • philipwhiuk 11 minutes ago
              > Seems like there are many ways to get toward the best of both worlds -- don't allow people to upload pictures of kids who are clearly under 15 to social media would get us a lot of the way there.

              How do you prevent kids uploading photos of themselves?

              • Cider9986 5 minutes ago
                YouTube kids is able to do it. They detect kids in regular YouTube and whether they are the account owner and move them to YouTube kids.
              • wizzwizz4 40 minutes ago
                Without further violating privacy. I would say that the data these companies are already collecting on people (including children, who many believe should be afforded extra protections from such companies) is a major, systematic privacy violation.
              • dgellow 33 minutes ago
                Oh that’s interesting. Could that potentially be used as a blocker for Chat Control 2.0 at the European level?
                • josefritzishere 10 minutes ago
                  This is the correct response. Privacy is a human right.
                  • rabfu 18 minutes ago
                    Frankly, the proper solution is to ban social media regardless of age. We are already doing it with heroin and other similar substances and clearly social media are pretty bad for everyone and anyone.
                    • betaby 3 minutes ago
                      Tobacco and alcohol are scientifically proven carcinogens, yet they are sold ubiquitously in the [western] world. I would argue they are more dangerous than social medias. Yet we don't see any push in banning tobacco and alcohol for 'everyone'.
                      • sajithdilshan 7 minutes ago
                        Funny that you’re saying that in a social media