Glacier Mice

(en.wikipedia.org)

273 points | by ostacke 5 days ago

16 comments

  • jameshart 13 hours ago
    Huh

    > they have been observed in Alaska, Chile, Greenland, Iceland, Svalbard, Uganda and Venezuela

    Well, today I learned, Venezuela has glaciers.

    Then I googled that, and…

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/may/08/...

    And so today I learned, Venezuela used to have glaciers.

    • hammock 12 hours ago
      Interestingly, the US has ADDED a glacier in the last 30 years, that of Mount St Helens, which was able to form after the explosion in 1980. It is the youngest glacier on earth
      • nsilvestri 11 hours ago
        It had 13 glaciers pre-eruption, so perhaps "added" is doing a lot of heavy lifting :)
      • BenFranklin100 13 hours ago
        We need to go nuclear with the newer type of plants. Built at scale, they are cost effective. Otherwise we are cooked, perhaps quite literally.
    • noncovalence 13 hours ago
      Always love seeing a link to wikipedia.org on the front page. Pretty much guaranteed to make me go "oh, neat" :)
    • enjrolas 15 hours ago
      I did a bit of searching, and couldn't find a single timelapse of glacier mice movement. Time for a trip to the mountains with some cameras!
      • mettamage 13 hours ago
        Volunteering as a potential random travel buddy here. I’m not sure if I have the time but let’s see if we can figure something out if you are potentially up for it. My email is in profile
    • networked 10 hours ago
      I have found a video (under a minute long) of a backpacking group walking through a herd of glacier mice in Alaska: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4fHfDrfoJw. I'd love to see a timelapse of glacier mice moving.
      • Aboutplants 9 hours ago
        I’m actually surprised there isn’t Timelapse of it already. Seems like a simple enough setup to gather basically all of the information needed for finalizing how they move.
        • andrewflnr 8 hours ago
          If you put me on that surface I don't think I would have any idea it was a glacier.
        • comrade1234 16 hours ago
          Here in Switzerland when children order shrimp at a restaurant I tell them that they come from the shrimp mines in the glaciers.
        • Aardwolf 8 hours ago
          I clicked the picture first without reading any of the article and was wondering "where are the mice? they must be well camouflaged!"
        • asmodeuslucifer 2 hours ago
          Slightly related, ice worms

          https://glaciers.nichols.edu/iceworm/

          • kaffekaka 12 hours ago
            jökla-mýs is a wonderful name, you gotta love icelandic. A swede might also associate it too "jäkla mys" - god damn cozy!
            • glimshe 17 hours ago
              TIL. Life never ceases to amaze.
              • davidjade 14 hours ago
                Wait until you hear about Ice Worms

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_worm

                • dekhn 9 hours ago
                  • accrual 5 hours ago
                    I like how they installed a GPS module into one of the rocks to track its path.
                  • grvbck 13 hours ago
                    Thanks to your comment TIL that snow algae is a thing

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_algae

                    • Aboutplants 9 hours ago
                      Another fun one is Mima Mounds, mounds found all over and especially in North America that don’t have established causes

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mima_mounds

                      • Rendello 2 hours ago
                        From your article:

                        > "Mima" is a name derived from a Chinook Jargon term meaning "a little further along or "downstream".

                        To keep the random learning going, Chinook Jargon [1] is fascinating in itself. A few years ago someone on this site suggested a book called You Can't Win, an autobiography of a reformed hobo/thief/addict written in the 20s. It's fantastic, especially the audiobook version on Spotify. Googling now, I'm seeing it got a (poorly reviewed) movie adaptation this year [2].

                        Anyway, when locked in a British Colombia jail around the turn of the century, the thief/author used it to communicate with his Chinese cellmate [3]:

                        > A priest visited the jail one day and gave me a pamphlet on which he had printed the Chinook language. In answer to my question he told me it contained about three hundred words—nouns, verbs, and adjectives. It was created by the Hudson Bay traders, years before, and taught to all the Northwest Indians to simplify trading with the different tribes. […]

                        > One day he came in with a scared-looking China boy about twenty years old. “Yank, here’s a cellmate for you.” He locked the Chinese in, thinking he was punishing me. The China boy later proved the jailer’s undoing and my deliverance. He knew some Chinook, but not one word of English. I learned from the Indian trusty that he was held for trial, charged with stealing a considerable sum of money from his employer, and that his case was about as hopeless as mine.

                        1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinook_Jargon

                        2. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1402593/

                        3. https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/69404/pg69404-images.ht...

                  • alexpotato 15 hours ago
                    Also a reminder that a lot of life is basic physics and a simple state machine.

                    e.g. even the development of eyeballs started with a slightly photoreceptive skin cell and then evolution hill climbing took care of the rest.

                    • glimshe 15 hours ago
                      But that's fine too. If the complexity of the natural world is just emergent behaviors, then emergence itself never ceases to amaze. Because one wouldn't normally expect that our "cold" physical laws could lead to the variety of life.
                • ck2 14 hours ago
                  reminds me vaguely of "Sailing Stones"

                  * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailing_stones

                  • dualarte 14 hours ago
                    > This suggests that this water buoyantly lifts the ice floes with embedded rocks until friction with the playa bed is reduced sufficiently for wind to move them and cause the observed tracks.

                    Wow, that's nuts!

                    • eleventen 13 hours ago
                      My first thought as well!
                    • sooperT 12 hours ago
                      Dunno about you, but I was really hoping to see mice not moss :/
                      • dburkland 12 hours ago
                        Remember seeing these in Iceland
                        • joe-esquibel 9 hours ago
                          ...Poppa was a rolling stone...
                          • trindell4469 10 hours ago
                            Am I the only one who immediately thought of tribbles?
                          • emirenesergin 11 hours ago
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