15 comments

  • amelius 3 hours ago
    So they have some kind of nonlinear material that can make light modulate other light, that they managed to get working at teraherz frequencies?

    Sounds incredible, as in: can't believe it.

    By the way, isn't Nvidia researching this?

    • ziofill 2 hours ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonlinear_optics

      Very real stuff (I have a PhD on this)

      • oersted 1 hour ago
        This is the second sentence:

        > Nonlinear phenomena become relevant only when the input light is very intense. Typically, in order to observe nonlinear phenomena, an intensity of the electromagnetic field of light larger than 108 V/m (and thus comparable to the atomic electric field of ~1011 V/m) is required.

        I don’t know anything about this field. Can you address this point? How close are we to overcoming this in academia?

        • amelius 57 minutes ago
          10^8 V/m, yeah that is quite a lot, 100V per micron or 1MV/cm. Even if it works it's going to have reliability issues, especially since the structures are not going to be perfect.
        • Y_Y 1 hour ago
          At milliwatt power, and terahertz frequency?
          • I guess it's a theoretical limit as in the material can change properties that fast given a fast light signal.
          • amelius 1 hour ago
            I mean, researchers have been trying for years, what is different now?
          • octoberfranklin 3 hours ago
            Yes; this material is called "snake oil".
            • amelius 3 hours ago
              Let's see if the investors bite.
              • octoberfranklin 1 minute ago
                I wouldn't infer much from that. Investors are in the business of taking risks and making gambles.

                Also "FooCo raises $X zillion round" doesn't mean they got $X zillion deposited into their bank account. There are always several milestones along the way to unlock each tranche. But the press releases never mention that.

                • wartywhoa23 2 hours ago
                  Theranos demonstrated that they'll bite at anything.
            • 1e1a 2 hours ago
              Finally! This paves the way towards practical BrainF*** execution.
              • 9dev 51 minutes ago
                We're all adults here, you can spell out BrainFuck just fine.
                • agumonkey 6 minutes ago
                  maybe it's brainf**, the pointer heavy formally verified brainfuck dialect
              • jurschreuder 2 hours ago
                It's just as if he had the brilliant idea to do photonics as an outcast even though there is already a 6" wafer semi-production level fablab being built for it in The Netherlands. There is even a version of TinyTapeout for Photonics.
                • Y_Y 1 hour ago
                  What's this photonic Tiny Tapeout?
                • himata4113 3 hours ago
                  This comes up every couple of years, but it hasn't seem to have made any advances since the first time I've seen this.
                  • akifbayram 2 hours ago
                    The channel's other uploads may be giving us a glimpse into this project's future.
                    • JoshTriplett 2 hours ago
                      Yup. UFO conspiracies, aliens on the moon, PSI...
                    • 12ah5kl 4 hours ago
                      Interesting topic, unreadable due to sloppification.
                      • flecomet 1 hour ago
                        "The first thing to understand about Akhetonics’ optical computer is that it’s not one thing yet." Great, that is such a good explanation. Thanks ChatGPT I guess.
                        • yuhmahp 3 hours ago
                          Now it's a good case to use your own ai to un-sloppify
                        • dvh 4 hours ago
                          > Photonics

                          So also 1000x smaller integration

                          • amelius 3 hours ago
                            Why?
                            • dvh 1 hour ago
                              Light is hundreds of nanometers, smallest "transistor" cannot be much smaller than wavelength.
                          • georgeburdell 1 hour ago
                            I didn’t read but I’d also like to point out photonics are 1000x larger than leading edge electronics with minimal path to scaling smaller. I don’t see a free lunch
                            • userbinator 1 hour ago
                              Basically the density of early CPUs (1970s), but 1000x faster than those, or current CPUs? Like a 1GHz 6502, or a 1THz 6502? The former is not really better, but the latter might interesting.
                              • gchamonlive 1 hour ago
                                There ain't no free lunch, but real progress rarely depend on it. It's usually lunch we weren't eating before, or a different way to eat the same lunch but with much more satisfaction.
                              • Y_Y 1 hour ago
                                In honour of Akhenaten? Cool.
                                • nekusar 1 hour ago
                                  References of Akhenaten is making rounds in modern pagan/occult circles as well. The "Law of One" group is really pushing ancient Egyptian 'pyramid power' stuff.
                                • natas 4 hours ago
                                  This has been tried by Cray like 15 years ago and the university of Colorado 11 years ago; there were also other initiatives, all failed.

                                  I'm not excluding that now we have more budget/time/AI to make it work (if it can), I'd just say exercise caution reading this (very AI slop) article (and anything that looks too good to be true)

                                  • mbfg 4 hours ago
                                    interesting that it is still 2 bit
                                    • kmoser 1 hour ago
                                      Do you mean as opposed to operating in an analog fashion? My guess is because keeping it digital means it is as close a possible to a drop-in replacement for today's electronic digital computers, including all the firmware, OS, and software that has already been written for them.
                                    • metalman 2 hours ago
                                      akhetonics-photonic-computing 1000x-faster-cpus, in mice
                                      • spwa4 56 minutes ago
                                        If you're looking for the limits of this approach: it's about 1000x faster than electric BUT the individual components have to be way larger (and can't be shrinked down)

                                        ... which hopefully means a LOT of fabs will be able to produce these (because a 2nm node makes no sense for this)

                                        It also means this will be incredible for radio chips, interconnects, that sort of thing and will do exactly nothing for the first 20 years for cpu's, never mind gpus.

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                                          • Lucasoato 3 hours ago
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