If his personal security detained the person videoing them and offered them money to sign an NDA, it feels like something they had experience with. Could this just be the tip of the iceberg?
Most likely. It's hard to imagine an ultra rich man who is already unfaithful to only be having sex with 2 women. Wouldn't be surprised if there was a lot more, including paid encounters.
No, that's the point, we wouldn't. And if we would then we should not be in charge of an extremely large organisation.
Part of the point of all this is that he's supposed to be in control of his emotions and able to make the best decisions without letting his emotions interfere.
If he can't even make the very simple decision to keep his dick in his pants in this very clear breach of commitments he has publicly made, then what other terrible decisions is he making? What other commitments will he break because it feels good and he can't control himself?
I find it hard to describe why this comment triggers me... partly because 黃 is the 7th most common surname in China. And I don't think any native speaker would make that connection. It's like saying "haha that guy named Ryan Johnson was adulterous because his surname is slang for a penis!"
when I was a kid, my parents taught me that making fun of other people's names, especially surnames, is the lowest form of action.
You have my deepest sympathy that your parents hadn't quite evolved to that level of civilisation to teach you the same. Life must be tough for your childhood in such primitive and vile family.
If, at the end of the day, it is moral merit that matters for leadership positions, why is the hiring and training paradigm solely focused on technical skills?
“It is generally considered polite to address a woman by Ms. rather than Mrs., unless the preference of the woman in question is clearly known. This is especially true in written communication, as dictated by professional etiquette. […] It is normally considered correct to address a woman as Ms. [Lastname], regardless of her marital status.”
This applies mostly to the US, to a lesser extent to the UK, and to a much lesser extent (or not at all) to the dozen or so other Anglosphere countries.
But as we all know, the US is all that matters, so you may as well state outright that it “is so”, and move on.
I looked at guardian's style guide (british) and some australian style guide I found and they both default to "Ms". Which specific anglosphere country did you have in mind?
> It is generally considered polite to address a woman by Ms. rather than Mrs., unless the preference of the woman in question is clearly known. This is especially true in written communication, as dictated by professional etiquette.[1]
> [Ms. is] intended as a default form of address for women regardless of marital status. [2]
You didn’t know, because it started with Gloria Steinem in the 70s.
Wikipedia tries to make it sound like it’s some old tradition, but it’s actually fairly new, with the prior historical references being obscure until it was resurrected. It’s right there in the article:
> “Ms. was another acceptable, but rarely used, abbreviation for Mistress in England in the 17th and 18th centuries.[12] During the 19th century, however, Mrs. and Miss came to be associated almost exclusively with marital status,[13] and Ms. was popularized as an alternative in the late 20th century“
Cant read it, but the title literally says “1986, ‘Ms’ joins the Times vocabulary”, so I’m guessing that, you know…1986 is when it became the Times’ standard. This likely corresponds to the campaign of Geraldine Ferraro, which is what I personally remember as the point where the term became widespread.
I don’t understand this need to rewrite history. Nobody in this thread is objecting to the use of the term. Even the wikipedia article says the term was resurrected in the 80s.
Hate to break it to you, but you’re arguing with me about something I never said. I said it was revived in the 70s.
The term is recent in a linguistic sense. Even if you personally think it’s ancient history, “my dude”, there are plenty of us alive where it was invented in our lifetime.
A teacher explained this to me in elementary school as some new fad.
> Skeletor will return next week with more disturbing reminders about passage of time...
What? You had a whole thing about rewriting history because the parent said the NYT adopted 40 years ago, then you made a big deal about how it was in 1986 and resurrected in the 80s and talked about rewriting history.
What was that all about if you both perfectly agree on the timeline?
> Classy edit, btw.
Edit? I did not edit my post. I think you may not understand what that means. It is neither classy nor unclassy, it is a type of meme.
> What? You had a whole thing about rewriting history because the parent said the NYT adopted 40 years ago, then you made a big deal about how it was in 1986 and resurrected in the 80s and talked about rewriting history.
It's simply a fact that the term was revived in the 70s and popularized in the 80s. The person I replied to was trying to imply that was incorrect, by suggesting that the NY Times was some long-time holdout.
If by "this" you mean the affair with Powell, probably not much difference between Jensen Huang's affair with Powell and affairs that Gates, Bezos, and Brin have reportedly had.
But the extramarital affair with Alice Huang is quite different. NYTimes reports that Alice Huang is a Chinese spy, with whom Jensen Huang may have conspired to break the law, selling advanced NVIDIA chips to China. That affair puts the whole company at extreme legal risk. Gates, Bezos, and Brin have nothing like this on their records that I'm aware of.
As I write this, the top post on HN speculates that this is "the tip of the iceberg," indicating that there at least may be more affairs yet to be uncovered, and, plausibly, Jensen Huang may have committed even more enormous mistakes with serious consequences for NVIDIA.
He is very hands on. He has more direct reports than other other tech CEOs. I think close to 40. Someone else stepping up or stepping in has things to do.
In addition Nvidia is incredibly tech-heavy company. You need another EE with experience with AI chip design and business. Just having good experienced businessman looking at simplified powerpoints before making decisions of technical issues is probably not enough.
Musk is also very "out" about it. Kinda like how it's okay to be gay in the CIA, as long as you're out. Being in the closet gets you fired because it makes you blackmailable.
Is it worse or does it dilute the bad if there are a ton of baby mammas not just a "girlfriend who is also the mother of a couple of children"? I don't like the guy but it kind of feels like it somehow isn't as bad when it's just open, repeat behavior and nobody thinks he is even trying to be exclusively "with" these women. I have no idea what their shared understanding is but it might not be as bad as your framing makes it sound if that is openly known between them.
Not a lifestyle I could ever be proud of living personally but ymmv and elon seems to be enjoying himself.
I would think so. We can probably expect more to keep trickling out until he has no other choice but to resign. The spy thing was already bad enough. Now we find out he's hooking up with one of his direct reports? Seems like he runs a toxic workplace.
Or Nvidia comes out of this damaged but not nearly as much as if they were glued to Jensen. "Superstar" CEOs that have complete control over a company are only benefits until they become enormous risks.
There is no way that would have been possible. And as I saw another commenter mention, even if NVidia were founded much more recently when dual share structures became much more common, you rarely (or maybe never, I can't think of any cases) see that dual share structure in very capital intensive industries like hardware where you have to sink a ton of money into the enterprise before you even see any revenue. Software is a whole different ball game.
the timing of this coming out now is certainly not a coincidence; same with the spy affair (which was known a year or two ago). the interesting question is who wants Jensen gone
I knew this was going to happen. It's highly unlikely that a man cheats on his wife for the first time after age 60. This was just the first time he was outed for it.
I hated the misogynistic narrative that Huang was somehow helpless against a super-spy-seductress. Men can in fact control themselves, and it takes a lot of effort, you might even say willpower, to turn a business meeting into a bedroom encounter, especially when you're in the public eye. If Huang was targeted, it was because he was an easy target, a philanderer.
> This was just the first time he was outed for it
For good reason. The level of fuck-up in sleeping with a Chinese spy and then having the gall to try and corruptly quash the investigations into it, coming clean only after Congress flips, is nuts.
I’m not convinced a good CEO can’t have affairs. I am convinced a liar and corrupter can’t.
On nearly every post online about his affair, one of the most visible comments always ended up being about how one must "understand" that this just sort of "happens" when you're this rich and powerful. Poor thing, couldn't keep it in his pants. "Oh, just think of how hard it would be to resist! Would you?"
I pity whomever is in a relationship with someone who actually thinks that way. I'm disgusted, to be honest.
> Yeah but then what's the point of busting your ass your whole life to become one of the wealthiest and most influential men in the world, if you can't have an affair when the mood hits you?
Perhaps don't get married then, or have a consensual open relationship.
I love all these comments that are basically like "what's the point of being a billionaire if you can't stick your dick wherever you want when the mood strikes you and lie about it to your wife."
I think the unspoken implication is that being a billionaire means having an inordinate amount of power, such that immoral behavior like this becomes almost a given, because you can literally buy your way out of consequences (if only up to a point). Maybe the pertinent question is less, "How do we stop there being billionaires who succumb to the temptations of their unfathomable amounts of power?" and more, "How do we stop there being billionaires?".
Not surprising at all. Many tech CEOs are like this; Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Sergey Brin, Eric Schmidt and so on. People don’t stop idolizing these people, they don’t even think that this is a problem.
Something like one in five married men has cheated on their spouse, approx one in eight women. It’s not that tech CEOs are “like this” it’s that they are not that different from other people, outside of their professional skills.
So you don't think the world's most powerful and richest people engage in infidelity more often than the guy that cleans the toilets at the local gas station?
every argument that attempts to humanize and 'us too' these types of folks (billionaires that own islands and ultra-yachts) totally bewilders me.
It’s an odd phenomenon alright. South Park covered it in the episode “Sexual Healing” where famous rich men kept cheating on their wives. We may never get to the bottom of it.
Marriage/long term coupling is not "natural" but normal in society
With the decline in religious attendance has come a decline in marriage; from 70%+ to 50%ish over the last couple generations
But divorce rate has declined so those that do marry seem to really want it; in the before times though it was how women survived
Coupling fits with biological imperative to have partners but longterm/for life is obviously not necessary since divorce is common too, partners die, etc
That and recent research shows long term married couples are 50% more likely to develop dementia; an imbalance in effort develops where one becomes codependent and forgets how to live and the partner in charge loses grip of themselves and taking care of their partner consumes them.
> People don’t stop idolizing these people, they don’t even think that this is a problem.
They'd go as far as to call it a virtue. Silicon Valley is the greatest domestic enemy this country has ever seen. They've built entire machines to protect, reward, and normalize antisocial activity.
Not much different from other industries, other than scale and reach. Took many decades to regulate out killing workers and customers for profit, some are still barely regulated.
Looks to me like he has a target on his back, and people are just throwing stuff at it now. This could have come out years ago, if it is true. No reason not to. None, not in this day and age.
Can someone explain how the CEO sex life is relevant? Is it because of the risk of a messy divorce that can both distract the CEO and eventually force voting share transfer since he’s also a shareholder? This isn’t really like the Chinese spy mistress thing after all.
Edit: honestly, this one feels like a moralistic freak out more than anything. Who cares about sex with the non-spy lady?
Yes, his actions carry potential shareholder risk and the board has a fiduciary duty to treat it as such. Nvidia (and Jensen) carry extra risk given their corporate structure which is flatter than most companies. Jensen has dozens of direct reports and is a cornerstone of the company. The recent changes to the stock price exemplify all of this.
> Can someone explain how the CEO sex life is relevant?
If it's true that he had the affair with the CCP spy or otherwise was encouraged to sell GPUs using loopholes that violate export bans, that would put him and NVDA into some hot water.
Investors do not like that and the implications for any rapid change in NVDA valuation would be immense.
So? He is a shareholder and CEO having sex with another consenting adult, who and why anyone would fire him. AFAIK Musk had kids with his subordinates and became a trillionaire afterwards.
Say your boss has two reports, you and someone else. You are the same gender as the someone else. They are sleeping with the someone else. They then promote the someone else while not promoting you. Now you have to ask yourself: do I need to have sex with the boss to get promoted? This type of situation is why most companies will fire you if you’re sleeping with someone you’re writing the performance reviews for. Also, all of Jensens reports now have a path to sue Nvidia for unfair treatment, he put the company at huge risk.
Because she's not actually able to properly consent if she feels her job is on the line, whether it actually is or not. When a supervisor comes onto their subordinate, that subordinate may feel that they'd be putting future work opportunities (e.g. promotions) in jeopardy if they say no. Or worse, they'd worry that they're putting their employment at risk. Even if Jensen had "pure" intentions and this affair in principle didn't affect their working relationship, he in fact can't know that.
For the same reason that, today, you're not considered a national security risk if you are openly gay, but you still are if you are closeted and trying to hide it. You can't easily blackmail an Elon type who has no shame and whose sex and drug addictions are part of his public reputation. Jensen presented himself as a faithful family man.
Also, if you cannot comprehend that there are issues of consent when it comes to having a sexual relationship with someone whose career you can destroy with no consequences, then I seriously hope you never get a management position. Elon's boards seem to be okay with this, but that is not the norm.
Yes, no one questions what he does with his wife (or used to...). That's sex life. Promiscuity and risky behaviors are that and have nothing to do with his sex life.
Potential for blackmailing, messy divorce, corporate liability with regards to potential sexual harassment lawsuits, overall negative PR/image... and a dozen other reasons.
Right? Why are we suddenly pretending like shareholders have such high morals? I really don't understand what's going on. Destroying the world is fine, but cheating, that's where I draw the line!
If there are ants in your kitchen they might be coming in due to rain outside.
You can leave sugar water in strategic places and then follow the ant trail to track where they are coming in.
Probably there will be an entire trail of ants in the morning - not just two. You can then track the place where they are coming in and block up the entrance point.
> Mr. Huang’s security witnessed the bystander with their phone and sequestered them, the people said. They made the person an offer to sign a nondisclosure agreement
This is not their first rodeo, is it? Wonder how much was offered? Did the person take it? ("hey, psst, we'll throw the latest GPU card on the table, how about now?")
Then, will Huang issue another, equally sincere, public apology to his wife about this other affair. He could have grouped them both into a batch for efficiency I guess.
Uno was highly criticized in public not for having a Geisha mistress, as it was a traditional leisure practice expected of politicians and wealthy men but instead due to relating his poor financial habits in the Japanese Diet as compared and paralleled to the ungenerosity towards his former Geisha mistress.
Maybe I'm too old and stupid but I'm less concerned knowing that the guy has a few mistresses. It makes it less likely that any of these ladies are tugging on his heart strings for the keys to his kingdom. Nvidia security is probably all over these affairs monitoring his communications, personal devices...
I'm not condoning cheating at all, but if you're a billionaire with endless connections around the world, why wouldn't you just go to an escort if you can't keep it in your pants.
I know things are different when you're only thinking with your johnson but jeez, showing up with the same woman in front of the media many times and even displaying affection in front of a camera (there is pictures of them with light body contact afaik), what did he think was going to happen?
it's a power thing - yeah he could go to an escort, but then it becomes only about money. He wants these relationships as a proof of his power; then walking around in public is to flaunt the power, the 'you can't do me nothing, look at me'. Power is the drug.
Purely accident that the news dribbles out like that. Nothing to see, moving on.
(If he's done this without his wife's full consent, he's certainly a despicable human, but that doesn't change that this looks like a really nicely orchestrated PR hit job)
I agree with you. I also find it “interesting” that this all really started appearing a few days after DOJ made angry noises about nVidia buying Hugging Face.
He's kind of like 'scum bag lite' and now barely qualifies to join the rest of the mega wealthy and powerfull in there conspicuos imunity from censure.
Part of the point of all this is that he's supposed to be in control of his emotions and able to make the best decisions without letting his emotions interfere.
If he can't even make the very simple decision to keep his dick in his pants in this very clear breach of commitments he has publicly made, then what other terrible decisions is he making? What other commitments will he break because it feels good and he can't control himself?
No one is calling him a sinner.
Here's an example:
開黃腔 (kāi huáng qiāng) – to make a lewd or sexually suggestive remark.
All those years me learning Chinese haven't gone to waste--yet. :)
"Do not #&$+ where you eat."
Seriously, a second mistress, who is unqualified?
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/11/11/nvidia-jensen-huang-affair-e...
I just put a large amount of money into Nvidia, and I am aghast.
You never, ever have intimate relationships with professional connections. Ever.
Edit: Best meme so far...
https://s.yimg.com/lo/mysterio/api/55ed1286be8498d8efe431101...
You have my deepest sympathy that your parents hadn't quite evolved to that level of civilisation to teach you the same. Life must be tough for your childhood in such primitive and vile family.
> sexually obscene; pornographic
0: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/黃
Dumb language question: if Powell is married, why isn’t she referred to as Mrs. Powell in this article?
“It is generally considered polite to address a woman by Ms. rather than Mrs., unless the preference of the woman in question is clearly known. This is especially true in written communication, as dictated by professional etiquette. […] It is normally considered correct to address a woman as Ms. [Lastname], regardless of her marital status.”
But as we all know, the US is all that matters, so you may as well state outright that it “is so”, and move on.
Many people find it demeaning to address women differently depending on whether or not they are married, especially when we don't do the same for men.
I was always taught it was 'Master' for unmarried and young men.
> [Ms. is] intended as a default form of address for women regardless of marital status. [2]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mrs. [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ms.
Wikipedia tries to make it sound like it’s some old tradition, but it’s actually fairly new, with the prior historical references being obscure until it was resurrected. It’s right there in the article:
> “Ms. was another acceptable, but rarely used, abbreviation for Mistress in England in the 17th and 18th centuries.[12] During the 19th century, however, Mrs. and Miss came to be associated almost exclusively with marital status,[13] and Ms. was popularized as an alternative in the late 20th century“
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ms.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/06/insider/1986-ms-joins-the...
I don’t understand this need to rewrite history. Nobody in this thread is objecting to the use of the term. Even the wikipedia article says the term was resurrected in the 80s.
Skeletor will return next week with more disturbing reminders about passage of time...
The term is recent in a linguistic sense. Even if you personally think it’s ancient history, “my dude”, there are plenty of us alive where it was invented in our lifetime.
A teacher explained this to me in elementary school as some new fad.
> Skeletor will return next week with more disturbing reminders about passage of time...
Classy edit, btw.
What was that all about if you both perfectly agree on the timeline?
> Classy edit, btw.
Edit? I did not edit my post. I think you may not understand what that means. It is neither classy nor unclassy, it is a type of meme.
It's simply a fact that the term was revived in the 70s and popularized in the 80s. The person I replied to was trying to imply that was incorrect, by suggesting that the NY Times was some long-time holdout.
But when Mrs first stood for Mistress, the word Mistress wasn't "loaded" at all.
Only in English.
But the extramarital affair with Alice Huang is quite different. NYTimes reports that Alice Huang is a Chinese spy, with whom Jensen Huang may have conspired to break the law, selling advanced NVIDIA chips to China. That affair puts the whole company at extreme legal risk. Gates, Bezos, and Brin have nothing like this on their records that I'm aware of.
As I write this, the top post on HN speculates that this is "the tip of the iceberg," indicating that there at least may be more affairs yet to be uncovered, and, plausibly, Jensen Huang may have committed even more enormous mistakes with serious consequences for NVIDIA.
In addition Nvidia is incredibly tech-heavy company. You need another EE with experience with AI chip design and business. Just having good experienced businessman looking at simplified powerpoints before making decisions of technical issues is probably not enough.
certainly sounds like that's the case, yup
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Hurd
Rest in peace.
Musk is also very "out" about it. Kinda like how it's okay to be gay in the CIA, as long as you're out. Being in the closet gets you fired because it makes you blackmailable.
morally I don't really disagree with you, but practically I do.
Not a lifestyle I could ever be proud of living personally but ymmv and elon seems to be enjoying himself.
I hated the misogynistic narrative that Huang was somehow helpless against a super-spy-seductress. Men can in fact control themselves, and it takes a lot of effort, you might even say willpower, to turn a business meeting into a bedroom encounter, especially when you're in the public eye. If Huang was targeted, it was because he was an easy target, a philanderer.
For good reason. The level of fuck-up in sleeping with a Chinese spy and then having the gall to try and corruptly quash the investigations into it, coming clean only after Congress flips, is nuts.
I’m not convinced a good CEO can’t have affairs. I am convinced a liar and corrupter can’t.
I pity whomever is in a relationship with someone who actually thinks that way. I'm disgusted, to be honest.
Maybe his autographing that women's bra (boob?) at a trade show was a red flag…
Perhaps don't get married then, or have a consensual open relationship.
I love all these comments that are basically like "what's the point of being a billionaire if you can't stick your dick wherever you want when the mood strikes you and lie about it to your wife."
For this conclusion to be valid, you have to provide the proportion of tech ceos who cheat.
every argument that attempts to humanize and 'us too' these types of folks (billionaires that own islands and ultra-yachts) totally bewilders me.
With the decline in religious attendance has come a decline in marriage; from 70%+ to 50%ish over the last couple generations
But divorce rate has declined so those that do marry seem to really want it; in the before times though it was how women survived
Coupling fits with biological imperative to have partners but longterm/for life is obviously not necessary since divorce is common too, partners die, etc
That and recent research shows long term married couples are 50% more likely to develop dementia; an imbalance in effort develops where one becomes codependent and forgets how to live and the partner in charge loses grip of themselves and taking care of their partner consumes them.
https://www.reuters.com/article/technology/intel-ceo-resigns...
They'd go as far as to call it a virtue. Silicon Valley is the greatest domestic enemy this country has ever seen. They've built entire machines to protect, reward, and normalize antisocial activity.
lol, I called it perfectly even.
What even is the problem with that really?
So it's all opportunistic, at this point.
Then Investor lawsuit kick off, more allegations, a big drop, profit. Then "oh well", "can't prove it".
This was all immensely quick, putting together an investor's lawsuit this fast, other allegations waiting...
It's almost as if someone had the lawsuit ready to go.
Edit: honestly, this one feels like a moralistic freak out more than anything. Who cares about sex with the non-spy lady?
If it's true that he had the affair with the CCP spy or otherwise was encouraged to sell GPUs using loopholes that violate export bans, that would put him and NVDA into some hot water.
Investors do not like that and the implications for any rapid change in NVDA valuation would be immense.
Also, if you cannot comprehend that there are issues of consent when it comes to having a sexual relationship with someone whose career you can destroy with no consequences, then I seriously hope you never get a management position. Elon's boards seem to be okay with this, but that is not the norm.
In terms of sexual crimes, I think there's cases and situations where there can be coercion, but it's not necessarily the case.
Oh also it's a breach of the marital contract of course.
Ya'll need help.
You can leave sugar water in strategic places and then follow the ant trail to track where they are coming in.
Probably there will be an entire trail of ants in the morning - not just two. You can then track the place where they are coming in and block up the entrance point.
People don't see the money, the global geopolitical issues at stake - they see the man - they see the jacket.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6gHS-eJNCQ
This is not their first rodeo, is it? Wonder how much was offered? Did the person take it? ("hey, psst, we'll throw the latest GPU card on the table, how about now?")
Then, will Huang issue another, equally sincere, public apology to his wife about this other affair. He could have grouped them both into a batch for efficiency I guess.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C5%8Dsuke_Uno#Economics
I know things are different when you're only thinking with your johnson but jeez, showing up with the same woman in front of the media many times and even displaying affection in front of a camera (there is pictures of them with light body contact afaik), what did he think was going to happen?
He should have retired and done a handover last month and left at his peak to a beach villa on Maui...
(If he's done this without his wife's full consent, he's certainly a despicable human, but that doesn't change that this looks like a really nicely orchestrated PR hit job)